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or years as he continues to battle with congress in terms of fiscal issues and the debt ceiling. just a matter of minutes ago actually dan pfeiffer, one of the top aides to the t president put out a note that politico breaux this morning where they said that house republicans were considering, among other things, default or possibly a government shutdown. some of the dramatic steps that the republicans of the house are considering. pfeiffer referred to that specifically today saying just another reason -- just one more way that house republicans could make themselves even less popular than they already are right now. we have a pretty good sense of what we're going to hear the president say when it comes to the debt ceiling and fiscal issues. jay carney sort of telegraphed these statements during the briefings last week, the last one was on wednesday where he said, and i pulled up the notes to get it right. he said there are only two options to deal with the debt limit. congress can pay its bill or fail to act and put the nation into default. the line in the sand was clearly drawn duri
to take you back to that -- not the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling issue that the republicans do seem to be going soft on, i do think one of the reasons why they went so soft is because major traditionally republican lobbying groups were advocating like the chamber of commerce came out strongly saying this is crazy. i'm wondering if there are other traditionally republican groups like law enforcement organizations, you know, the police associations who might tend to be conservatives. if they came out strong and spoke, if the faith community came out strong, those could be groups that would end up moving and you know, shaking that a little bit. just quickly let's take a listen to who senator ted cruz was talking about -- what he thinks is going to happen as a result of the dunn gun debate. take a listen. >> i think the consequence i think he's going to pay a serious political price. and i think the price that's going to be paid on this is going to manifest in senate races in 2014. >> jennifer: your take on that. he's flipping our argument on its head. he think it will benefit the repub
of the year. as businesses get more confident because we get through the fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling issue. >> we'll see how we get through it and where the cuts come from. >> go ahead, samir. >> i was going to say it's been really interesting how much of a rotation you've seen in tech especially on the sentiment side. all about the death of the pc and the likes of intel and dell and hp selling off and now it's completely the opposite where a lot of the stocks have had pretty nice runs, whether it's because, you know, they have announced restructurings or buybacks, and now it's kind of the -- maybe not the death of it or whatever, but you've had a very nice pullback. very interesting how quickly you've seen that rotation in technology, and i kind of point people back to the fall as to how quickly things change in a hurry. >> thanks very much. have a great weekend, and we will talk soon. >> thanks. >> appreciate your time tonight. major averages hitting three-week winning streaks with the dow and the s&p 500 touching five-year highs. bob pisani has all the action today. >> the importa
'm still pleading ignorance on in this whole debt ceiling issue. i'm telling you what would happen if congress did not raise the debt ceiling that would make it such a dangerous option for going forward. >> i think our credit rating go down, and how would we pay the bills? how would we pay social security? how would we pay veterans? >> there wouldn't be any money? >> no -- >> [inaudible] >> the republicans are saying pick and choose. and so let's have a vote here. which ones would we pick? which ones would not occur right away? i mean, the president was right to say, in my judgment, to the republicans don't do it. you're playing with fire. >> but why? i haven't -- i don't understand that, i guess. >> why what? >> why are they playing with fire? what would happen in? >> but those are two different questions. i think the republicans have some idea what would happen. we've been through this with the credit rating. and i think, essentially, they know what would happen, and so they say let's pick and choose. by the way, they haven't said which they would pick. and which would be left as
to the president tomorrow. other hot issues, the debt ceiling and immigration we may be hearing about. we want to know what you would ask the president if you're able to ask him a question. you can tweet us at happening now those questions. jon: sounds good. heather touched on it. vice president joe biden presents his plan to curb gun violence to president obama tomorrow. one city is apparently not waiting around for washington act. chicago quickly becoming ground zero in the debate on gun control. that city saw more than 500 murders last year, prompting mayor rahm emanuel to take action with a gun control plan of his own. steve brown is live in chicago right now, but i guess mayor emanuel is not. he is in d.c. today suggesting democratic strategy to try to get gun control accomplished, is that right, steve? >> reporter: in a sense yes, it was part of the discussion at a public revent held in washington that mayor emanuel took part in. local press was made aware of it well in advance. it touches on the city's most dramatic problem which is gun violence in this city. you mentioned over 500 homi
, from the fiscal cliff, this issue, we have continuing resolutions, the debt ceiling debate. he's in full campaign mode. do you think the president emboldened by reelection and maybe emboldened by a win on the fiscal cliff, do you think he's overreaching on the political consequences and how should republicans deal with it? >> look, i think he clearly felt after the election that he was out to crush the one institution that was stopping his agenda, that it stopped it in the second, in the third and the fourth years of his administration, first administration, namely the republican house. he set up the fiscal cliff negotiations deliberately to split the republicans in the house, knowing that if he did, it would neuter the opposition and he would have the kind of dominance of washington, which he had in the first two years before he lost the house in the mid term elections. so, i have no doubt that that's how he used the fiscal cliff. that's how he's going to use the issue of immigration and that's how he's going to approach the debt ceiling and other issues and it's his objective
've been through this, i go back to the debt ceiling issue, and can you tell me what would happen if congress did not raise the debt ceiling, and if that would make it such a dangerous option for going forward. >> i think our credit rating would go down, and how would we pay the bills? how would we pay social security? how would we pay veterans? >> [inaudible] >> no. the republicans are saying pick and choose. let's have a vote here. which ones would we pick? which ones would not occur right away? i mean, the president was right to say, in my judgment, to the republicans, don't do it, you're playing with fire. >> i don't understand that, i guess. >> why what? >> why are they playing with fire? what would happen? >> those are two different questions. i think the republicans have some idea of what would happen. we've been through this with the credit rating. i think the sense is they know what would happen until they say let's pick and choose. by the way, they have not said which they would pick and which would be left, and the president made clear we're not talking about future exp
ceiling issue. we should set it aside for a considerable period of time. we should tackle sequestration and we have to do that in the next six weeks. so i'm hopeful that we don't drag this out as some people are saying and then move on to the serious discussion of tax reform and environment issues. so i see it in a sense the opposite way. i say let's get this done, the sequestration part in the debt ceiling in the next six weeks and then move on. those who are saying let's do it dribble by turbo, they are the ones who would be undermining the effort to sit down and have a serious discussion of tax reform. >> we've got about two minutes left. francine. >> the question about itemize deductions. what s-sierra thought of having a cab, that people can use it for whatever they want for mark h., whatever. >> i think the problem with the cap is that it has to seriously consequence, especially for charitable contributions. because a substantial portion of the charitable contributions come from the very wealthy. ii think the figure may be something like well over half comes from people with incom
are some of the top republicans responding to president obama on this debt ceiling issue? >> reporter: well, jon, republicans are clearly uncomfortable with prominent democrats already talking about a tax increase when you consider the fiscal cliff deal raised taxes and every worker with a payroll tax hiring expiring and raised taxes on upper income americans even further, check your pay stub. a leading republican says responding to the president what's critical is getting spending under control. >> it's a compelling message saying we ned to pay the bills we've racked up. of it messes the whole point again. think of it in terms of a credit card. in you have a son or daughter who exceeds the limit, the first thing you do is rip up the card, the second thing you do is you say you need to change your spending habits. >> reporter: they say we need to a just what bills we are paying and how they are paying. jon: the issue of depending on disaster relief could provide tkraeupl drama there on capitol hill. >> reporter: speaker john boehner promised that the house would take up sandy relief bills
republicans are meeting in southern virginia to talk about the road ahead on the debt ceiling and other issues, brit hume has analysis. everybody talked about it today where you work. outrageous hoax involving a superstar. college football player and dead girlfriend who never existed. tonight there is new info. "special report" from washington starts at 6:00 eastern. now back to "the five." ♪ ♪ >> dana: keep going. very good. i would love all of nashville to come after you today. earlier this week we discussed boy suspended from school, he was six years old because he made a gesture of a gun and said, "pow." he got suspended. this is not isolated case. this happened in maryland with two boys playing cops and robbers. they got suspended. the other parents at the school didn't think it was too great an idea. listen to them. >> suspending them is harsh. i don't think it will do any good for the parents, child or the school. >> people trying to make example of things they shouldn't. blowing things out of proportion. they have gotten strict and overboard on things. i definitely don't think it w
on this debt ceiling issue. i know you've said you're not negotiating on it. your administration has ruled out the various ideas that have been up there, the 14th amendment just this morning one of the house democratic leaders jim clyburn asked you to use the 14th amendment and even said sometimes that's what it takes, he brought up the emancipation proclamation, saying it took executive action when congress wouldn't act and he compared the debt ceiling to that. are you considering a plan "b"? and if not, why not? >> well, chuck, the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. and so there's a very simple solution to this. congress authorizes us to pay our bills. now, if the house and the senate want to give me the authority so that they don't have to take these tough votes, if they want to put the responsibility on me to raise the debt ceiling, i'm happy to take it. mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, had a proposal like that last year. and i'm happy to accept it. but if they want to keep this responsibility then they need to go ahead a
you a weapon without a background check. >>> on the national political scene let's talk debt ceiling, the government's limit on how much money it can borrow. the issue divides democrats and republicans and threatens to send us into government gridlock in the next few weeks, but tonight some encouraging news. house republicans say they are prepared to raise the roof on the debt ceiling for another three months, a bit of a breather. in return they want guarantees from democrats that congress will work quickly to pass a budget so it can focus how to bring down the nation's debt. >>> security will certainly be tight near the capitol for the upcoming inauguration and the coastguard will keep a close eye on the rivers through the city. increased security is in place on the potomac between the key bridge and reagan national airport already. on the anacostia patrols will extend from the 14th street bridge to the 295 bridge, but from sunday through tuesday water traffic along those waterways will be closed entirely for 48 hours. >>> while the president's been working on his speech his staff h
broader macro issues, and i think it's the debt ceiling and sequestration talks, are really keeping the lid on the market so i don't suspect you'll see a real move up and through 1475 unless there's clarify coming out of washington. that's what i think the market really wants to hear. >> it sure does. rick, do you want to hear that? >> no, i don't think we will. but i do think the republicans are probably going to be more inclined when they come up with the weekend restreet strategy to pay more attention to the sequester side of the equation, my opinion. i agree with greg ip. if you're looking for the big run up in interest rates in 2013, at least in my opinion, you're going to be disappointed. here's what i still can't reconci reconcile. the beige book didn't give us a positive grow on jobs and on the 30th of month we'll look at the annualized pace of growth in the form of gdp, looking for 1.5%. another year where we don't see big tax revenues coming in because we're not creating a lot of jobs. the economy is growing less than 2%, and we're still bragging about what a great year it
and the democrats on this powerful committee as to who should testify. because i don't think the debt ceiling issue should become such a partisan issue. and i just appeal to the republicans who are having this retreat to realize that they should not place us in that kind of jeopardy. so there will be a hearing. we're going to work on witnesses today, settle them, and i hope the chairman and i will be resolving who will be the witnesses. they get the choice, the majority, but in this case i think there will be consternation as to who they pick and our choice. host: ok, all right. guest: we'll have one witness out of four. host: could it be secretary geithner? guest: no. host: do you think they'll call on him, the republicans? guest: no. host: tony, olive branch, mississippi. republican. hi, tony. caller: good morning. how you doing, senator? guest: where is olive branch? caller: it's down across the street from memphis, tennessee -- mississippi. guest: i've been across the bridge there. host: what's your question or comment? caller: my deal is when you talk about congress and everybody is looking at
as immigration and climate change in the debt ceiling where the gun issue is concerned, we will see rallies and town halls and lots of big gun control type money on tv screens. on the other side of all of this the national rifle association is planning a big ad blitz on its own. first one on the web started in the last day or so. it busts the president for hypocrisy because is he skeptical about the idea of armed guards in schools while his kids go to a private school here in d.c. by the way the house and the hill both know that the president's proposed ban on semiautomatic rifles is din disingenuous that there are not enough votes in the senate. everybody knows it. >> bill: states should control that issue and the feds can put in a law you can't transport them across state lines. that's what they do. all right. rosen now, clarence thomas, supreme court justice, never speaks. he is like the spinks. he never speaks. there he is, not speaking. we have a picture of him not speaking which is not hard to get because he never speaks. but he did break his silence, rosen, on what? >> kind of, sort
to call for the reaching of common ground on these major issues, like the debt ceiling, the budget, gun-control, immigration, tax reform, those kinds of things. i think it is true that we have a divided government now. it has been a difficult four years, but president obama is a natural conciliate her -- conciliation person, and he will make that a big theme of his second term. i think you will hear some of that tomorrow. >> this is from this morning's "washington post." you can draw an analogy to two former president, franklin roosevelt and dwight eisenhower, finding parallels to what fdr delivered in his second address in 1937, and what eisenhower faced in 1957. >> the roosevelt second inaugural address is interesting to read because it really is of a peace with first inaugural. the president said, i came in with a huge crisis, i have been leading this country through, we're on the right path. we are going to keep going. he has a phrase in there -- have we found our happy valley? it was a very fine speech. i would have to go back and look at it again. i do not read it as being an aggr
other issues like the sequestered. republicans are floating a short-term debt ceiling increase with some modest cuts to deal with the automatic spending cuts that government funding levels and get back to an argument or discussion over the debt ceiling and spending levels once you reach the next few months. that is right now what they are discussing. they have not decided on that strategy. this is just the house republican strategy. it would then have to keep an over to the senate and agree with senate democrats and the white house. for republicans they say this is all about structural spending changes. >> i think it is very clear at this is not just the notion of paying back past dues for the united states but also making sure that the dead obama administration wants to continue to incur is restrained. >> reporter: republican leaders continue to meet with members discussing a number of different ways to deal with the debt ceiling, short-term mr. -- short term. also a longer-term extension of the ceiling that would involve larger cuts, structural changes to entitlements and tax reform, a
more people care about that issue than the debt ceiling. >> bill: they get too full of themselves. the problem with the front row particularly the press corps is they represent different networks. they all want to talk about let's say, for example guns. they all want to be on camera asking the question about guns and it doesn't matter if somebody else has already asked the question five different times in five different ways, they're still going to ask it so they can get on camera. that's what's wrong with the press briefings. >> thank you very much for your tweet. >> if you go to the newseum web site and you look at what the country is talking about it is a rich quilt of different issues, different ideas that people around this country are discussing. and the washington press corps questions of one or two topics doesn't even big to cover -- begin to cover what reporters around this country are reporting on, talking about. that disconnect is really jarring, i think. >> bill: it is jarring. i remember as a reporter in los angeles and a comment tater in los angeles, covering preside
have been here but i think some of those issues like the debt ceiling, this is absolutely new territory. >> stephanie: yeah even the republican party -- we have just not seen a version of it that it was willing to take the united states hostage -- >> we have never seen that but we have never seen the kind of use of the filibuster that we see now to stop everything, and as you said, the blocking of appointments. there has always been this courtesy to the president of the united states to at least have hearings and -- and debates about these nominees but you know -- one person to stop it -- >> stephanie: right. and the way the main stream media covers it drives me insane. the president nominates a republican, and there is outrage. >> i know and he doesn't have enough beer parties or something. >> stephanie: yeah exactly. the other thing the president addressed was gun legislation, and if it is not different this time, congress woman i don't know when it will be if you watched any those sandy hook families yesterday. >> wasn't that stunning? >> stephanie
a new plan to eliminate the debt ceiling, claiming the gop is exploiting the issue for political gain. doug mckelway is live in washington with more on the democratic plan and the road ahead. hi, doug. >> reporter: hi, jenna. this democratic plan in a nutshell would basically do away with the statute that calls for the debt ceiling in the first place, allowing spending in effect to go up and up and up without the artificial cap that the debt ceiling is indeed. democrats are explaining this in a press conference right now as we speak, so we'll be learning a lot more about it as the day progresses. republicans obviously deeply opposed to this thing, fearful that democrats will indeed use it to allow spending to go up and up. here is senator john barrasso speaking on fox news this morning. >> we have a spending problem in this country. people all across the country know it. they know it in wyoming. families have to balance their budget every year. many states do. we do in wyoming. it is time for the senate and the house and the president to get serious about limiting our spending and spe
tries to figure out what to do on the issue of spending and the national debt. we want to get your comments on a proposal put forth by senate democrats to bypass congress, allowing the president to raise the debt ceiling. it also removes the debate on section four of the 14th amendment. we will focus on all of this this sunday morning. it was a call. numbers at the bottom of your screen. we also want you to join us online on twitter and facebook or send us an e-mail. we will get your calls and comments in just a moment. our question, whether or not they residents can -- president can't bypass congress to raise the debt ceiling. she is preparing for his inaugural address. the president will seek a citizenship pass in a push as the debate over immigration continues here in washington and around the country. another headline getting a lot of attention is that the vice president continues his recommendations on how to deal with gun violence. tuesday he will give the president has outlined. p--- his outline. ,et's go to the hill newspaper which has one of a number of stories on this sun
is this important? because we're back to this tax issue with regard to the debt ceiling potentially and revenues and we continually here about things in the past and i'll tell you this. talk to any family that's paying whatever rate they were paying in 2012 and that's the rate that makes their family work. whatever that tax rate works. it can cover their expense, buy books, scene their kids to school, put food on the table. it doesn't matter where the tax was a generation ago or three years ago because we assimilate, we're a productive capitalist society that assimilates. it on lie matters where you are. love steve liesman's presentation. it's about government spending. what i find fascinating, what we have here is on one side debt. on the other side we have stimulus but not really. okay. boy the board is even getting excited. but debt and stimulus are the same. it just depends on which side of the check you're on. the 1.2 trillion every year in debt is basically a stimulus. so why is it so shock or why is it that to stop increasing debt that once you do the numbers go down? you know what it's l
that are about the debt ceiling and that sort of thing, because this is not really on that topic. >> it is not on that at all and we should de-link it in all of the discussions, and i do belief that the atmosphere is there for us to do so. >> congressman clyburn, i so appreciate your taking the time and it is nice to be in washington to speak with you. >> thank you so much for being with us. you are bringing a little sunlight. i want to tell your viewers what i saw out here before i got on here. >> the dancing that i do before the show. it does happen. up next, the insiders' guide to the gun debate. you heard of behind the scenes of nerdland, but there is behind the scenes on the big political issues of the day, and i want to ask about those when we come back. stress sweat. it's different than ordinary sweat. it smells worse, and it can happen any time -- to anyone! like when i ran to catch the train to work and a draft blew my skirt up and everybody here saw my unmentionables. yeah, and they aren't even cute. hello, laundry day. no... stress sweat can happen to anyone, anytime -
the brink about the debt ceiling. they do want to force the issue about how can they get this president to agree to additional spending cuts? the debt ceiling is a dangerous game. i think they recognize that politically. they'll push -- the question is how -- how do they push on the debt ceiling? do they say, look, we'll give you a short-term extension of the debt ceiling for a certain amount of spending cuts, or we'll give you a long-term extension like you want for even more spending cuts. can they force entitlement reform around medicare, for instance, even some of the -- in their view -- more limited things that the president wants to do around means testing and age and indexing to try to attach that to a debt-limit deal. do they move beyond the debt limit, try to get to the continuing resolutions and those kinds of things? they recognize that this is the only area of leverage that they have, but they want to be careful about it. >> so chuck todd, how does the white house deal with that supposed leverage? >> well, first i think the republicans are hoping that they have a manti te'o
and debt ceiling, poverty is expanding. 50 million in poverty. food insecure, unemployed, and the disparity keeps growing, plus an impact of violence. so those issues must be confronted in this second go-round. >> how does the president go about doing that? i made the point in the last, before the last break that the president, at least at that point, had both houses of congress under his belt with a democrat majority. he doesn't have that anymore. can he put forward legislation, ideology, issues to help reduce that polarization? >> you know what, lyndon johnson opened up the war on immigration in appalachia. most poor people are white, female and young, and black and brown hunger hurts. 50 million, these people are malnourished, homeless or wandering. they're unbankable, therefore they're driven into expensive loan arrangements. they are poor. they cannot send their children to school. they cannot dream. 50 million more very close to them, this impact of growing poverty and racial polarization and violence is a hell of a combination, and i would think that now we must in substance take a h
was in it. >> very difficult. >> the debt ceiling is still around. >> easily, though. >> the debt ceiling is still around. you are still dealing with that and, of course, the sequester issue. there are a lot of questions about what happens. we're speccing to run into that debt ceiling sometime between february 15th and march 1st. in the meantime, let's talk about corporate news. aig is suiciding maiden lane over lawsuit rights. it's the federal vehicle created during aig's bailout. at issue is whether the insurer transferred its rights to sue for losses that it incurred on its troubled bonds when it sold $2 billion in securities to the fed in 20308. aig is preserving its right to sue the federal government and other debts. >> fed chairman ben bernanke is going to speak and answer questions at the university of michigan. in d.c., president obama is said to be forging ahead on a wide ranging plan to overhaul the immigration plan this year. this includes a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants already in the country. immigrants would have to pay fines and back taxes. it would require bu
more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. the issue here is whether or not america pays it's bills. we are not a debt-deep nation. >> cenk: i like it. now normally i say it should have been stronger, but it was pretty strong and he made his point very good. it continues. >> obama: this is not an implicatedcomplicateed subject. you don't go out to dinner, eat all your want, and then leave without paying the check. if you do, you're breaking the law. and congress should think about it the same way that the american people do. >> cenk: i like it, man. i do. that's exactly right analogy. you know, of course, i'd go further, but i would every time, right? i'd say listen, the republicans spent this money. they spent it in tax cuts for billionaires and millionaires, they spent it in the iraq war afghanistan, the great majority of this money was spent by george w. bush. now i'm going to make them pay the bill. i would turn it around on them. that's good. very strong language
agree with him on the sense that you don't play with the debt ceiling as the point to which to make cuts. there are other issues coming up like the continuing resolution and sequester cuts where they would like to make their last stand there for cutting getting spending cuts and allow on temporary extension without not much attached to it. >> heather: let's talk about the economy. the president starts his new term. less than 1% rate it as excellent. 9% say it's good shape. that is up a touch from his first inauguration but 91% of voters say economic conditions negatively today. why are we here again? >> you have to wonder. i point you back to november the conditions haven't changed all that much in two months. i would imagine that those exact numbers were the same on election day, and the american people not only re-elected the president but gave us the same senate in the house as we had before. so as much as they are saying economy isn't going well, when they had an opportunity to change things they voted for more of the same. >> heather: you mentioned congress, finally two polls dealin
saw the debt ceiling. so if that were to get into any kind of a logjam, not getting results, there can be some amount of sentiment that can impact us. and impact the customers and, therefore, to us. similarly in india, you look, the budget is going to come up in february. worry seeing further moderation in interest rates. but we still do not know, because quarter four tends to be a very good quarter. we have concern because we have very good revenue comes from india gee of fee. but some of those moves that will happen by the government and therefore the decision for investment and therefore there is a little bit of uncertainty. that is a big reason why we have given a guidance of .5% to 3% in large range. >> suresh -- >> based on the deal plan that we have, we feel that -- what? >> so just to be clear, you're basically saying just so people know what we're talking about, the guide kwans for the current quarter was between 1.2% and 3.5%. you came in at 2.4% revenue growth. your guidance for the next period is 0.5% to 3%. that was half a percent lower than the market was expecting. but y
powers. charles krauthammer. okay, charles, start with the debt ceiling talk. what you heard from the president. >> the tone was remarkable. he talk about the republicans being suspicious of the social security and medicare by the oldest saw that you could hear. then he added making sure empovrished children get food. that's over the top. he said i love to hang out with a congressional picnic at these people who want to starve america's chirp. interesting ini havation. then he went over and over on the debt ceiling and he must have gone through the same idea 15 times. saying this is about honoring the obligation and paying the bills we have already incured. he raised the debt ceiling on how to depend on the ongoing financial assistance from the foreign country to finance the reckless, fiscal pollty. the point of raising the debt ceiling is to allow to us borrow. he talked about the debt ceiling a dozen times. not once did he use the word "borrow." that means we are going to continue to borrow for every dollar the government spend, only 60 cents of it come from taxes. the rest, 40%
different opinions, but we can't have different facts. the debt ceiling is not there now? >> even if you don't want to listen to the president, like, listen to fitch and moodies and all the rating agencies who say this is not an economic issue. this is a political crisis that the united states is going through right now. and the thing about this, rev, is that this is a policy without a constituency. who backs this? who backs the idea to say basically, we're going to spend and spend and spend. and when the bills come up, we're not going to debate how we're going to spend in the future. if you want to have a larger conversation about spending, then we can have a larger conversation about spending. the moment we confuse them is when we start damaging the long term prospects of where this country can be economically. >> but nia, in fairness, there have been, at least in this area, some prominent republicans that are starting to point out that this is a little too far up here. senator murkowski says if you incur an obligation, you have the responsibility to pay for that. and that's very responsib
on the debt ceiling increase? are you going to be-- does that help? >> well, it's helpful that they have now dropped their demand, that the only way they're going to pay the country's billes, they themselves racked up, would be to extract some concessions. we've got to never again have this threat to the global economy and our economy because congress may not pay its bills. now, three months is no way to run an economy or railroad or anything else so that's not ideal. so i think it's a significant moment that the republican party now has moved off their position that the only way they're going to pay their bills is if they ge the correct kind of concessions. now, where does that leave us? i think we would be better served to go back to regular order in congress so we're notica reaping crisis to crisis; congress ought to work together and come up with a long-term fiscal plan >> but you see this as a good sign? >> i think they're no longer saying the only way we pay our bills is to have huge cuts in things like medicare. that's positive. listen you see our economy-- good housing numbers this p
a debt ceiling crisis. someone is going to have to come up with some way from stopping these people from being drama kings and drama queens. >> drama's out. >> is that your headline? >> mine is basically with a call for unity, obama presses assertive domestic agenda. i don't expect him to tick off the details, for example, of gun regulation. he already did that last week, but i think he is going to use the bully pulpit here for the idea that he can really lead us to more action on the domestic front in congress. >> and one other point. the facetious headline i came up with him being born in the united states. we need to get past all this. it's time to stop this because it's counterproductive and it's causing a paralysis. >> and i would briefly say it's not that we need to get past it, we have to call out who is responsible for t.only one group that's still trading in birtherism, it's a one-sided problem. >> i'd like, to if we could, pull up your headline again. i don't know if we can do that. >> yes, sir. >> a question not so much about the headline. >> talk to me. >> can we pull it up t
economy hostage. if the house can pass a clean debt ceiling increase and meeting the existing obligations we will be happy to consider it. here we are as i said three days before inauguration and it looks like another fight that the republicans are not prepared to it seems to follow through on despite the threats. >> zachary and i were having a conversation in the green room and i said i don't understand the meaning of a second inauguration for the president. i get it now. the reason we need another inauguration is apparently one party doesn't understand we had an election in november and they lost. which means that you move on and you let the president be the president of the united states. these guys still want to fight the old battles of 2012. >> but they're giving this extension now. >> a three-month extension. the white house should tell them to go shove it. you can't run a government three months at a time. you have to have a long-term planning. bad for the markets. bad for the country. bad for the economy. let's make clear, definitive decisions. you lost. let's come together and co
the sequestered, the debt ceiling, and you have the continuing resolution. the sequestered and debt ceiling fall on top of each other towards the end of february. these to say and republican leadership and the senate, which is served in for 12 years, you never take a hostage you cannot shoot. the problem with the house was they took hostage the cannot shoot when they took the fiscal cliff. if the republican members of congress take the debt ceiling as a hostage, it is a hostage you cannot shoot. as a very practical matter, if we go over the debt ceiling, we do not increase the debt ceiling, republicans will not win the debate. they will argue they are not increasing it because they do not want to control spending but they will not win the debate. what will happen is the white house will pay with cash flow of the interest on the debt. the debt will not be called. what they might not pay our social security checks. the moment the american citizen figures out they may not go out, the game is over. tenfold. because believe me, though congress can stand up to the senior lobby. so that is not a legiti
the emancipation proclamation, and he compared the debt ceiling to that. are you considering this? and if not, why not? >> well, chuck, the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a dead beat nation. so there is a very simple solution to all of this. congress authorizes us to pay our bills. now, if the house and senate want to give me authority so they do not have to take these tough votes, if they want to put the responsibility on me to raise the debt ceiling, i am happy to take it. mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, had a proposal like that last year, and i am happy to accept that, but they want to keep the responsibility, they need to go ahead and get it done. there are no magic tricks. there are no loopholes. there are no easy out. this is a matter of congress authorizes spending. they tell me you need to fund the defense department as such and such level. you need to send out social security checks. you need to make sure you are paying to care for the veterans. they lay all of this out for me. because they have the spending power. i am required by la
. that of course is bumping against and going through the debt ceiling. you know, when the president had his press conference discussing this i always like a good food analogy. his analogy was of course by not raising the debt ceiling we're not paying for the food we've eaten. basically at this big dinner we're at. i like it. let me give it a little slant my style. that is, it's not really a restaurant but an all you can eat buffet. there is no bill coming. the senate and house haven't passed a budget together in years. we have a revolving credit, a tab at this all you can eat buffet and nobody wants to get up. it is not like there is a clock where boom. here is your bill. we'll start the next 24 hours like your charting machines. nobody is ever getting up. it's just a meal that never ends. so how do you in essence stop the eating, stop the debt that is created by running up the tab? well, it seems easy enough but of course it gets messy and the politics are different than the principles involved. the house republicans seem to have finally figured that out. let's look at what some of the key playe
restraints, specifically entitlements. that is where the big enchilada is an issue that has not been taken up yet. how do we get to that? there are three pressure points. you have the sequestered, the debt ceiling, and you have the continuing resolution. the sequestered and debt ceiling fall on top of each other towards the end of february. these to say and republican leadership and the senate, which is served in for 12 years, you never take a hostage you cannot shoot. the problem with the house was they took hostage the cannot shoot when they took the fiscal cliff. if the republican members of congress take the debt ceiling as a hostage, it is a hostage you cannot shoot. as a very practical matter, if we go over the debt ceiling, we do not increase the debt ceiling, republicans will not win the debate. they will argue they are not increasing it because they do not want to control spending but they will not win the debate. what will happen is the white house will pay with cash flow of the interest on the debt. the debt will not be called. what they might not pay our social security checks. th
ahead of debt ceiling conversations, days after fiscal quick negotiations -- days after fiscal cliff negotiations. was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high- income countries as a share of the population. we have the highest in quality. we have the most entrenched underclass. we have had the biggest increases of any quality by far, and we've had the least political response of any high- income countries, so we are standing out on our own. this has been a 30-year trend of soaring in comes at the top, stagnation in the middle, and falling through the floor on the bottom, and the political system has refused to address this for 30 years. so we have reached a calamitous situation in this country, but the fact of the matter is nothing that was done at
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